Last typing test I took was 93 wpm, and I write for a living, was a sportswriter and columnist, so….not long. Maybe 15-20 min. How long did it take you to skip them, if you didn’t want to read them?
BTW, somebody mentioned Villegas, and he’s another example of a guy who has some goofiness in his swing (much more than with Glover), but gets it done. I actually _hate_ watching him swing a club, but he’s the leaders in GIR this year, so there you go. I think it comes down to the fact that beyond a very few true fundamentals in the swing, golf is really about much more than the swing–which is something a lot of young players don’t seem to get at all.
I absolutely love his extension and the flow of his arm swing, but most players couldn’t maintain a swinging motion with a forward move of the head and upper body like he has. He actually moves backward, then forward at the start of the downswing, about a head-width past his address position, then back a bit by impact. But he’s pretty much gold in most other respects. I just wouldn’t recommend all that movement to most players.
And neither Garcia nor Glover is anywhere on the map with Hogan or Nelson. Not yet.
Anyhow, no, I stand by the comment about Glover’s forward slide. When Nicklaus, Woods, Hogan, Nelson, Snead, Jones, etc. make an effort to stay back behind the ball, I’m gonna say that’s the preferred way to do it. But this year, in this tournament, Glover absolutely deserved the win, because he’s certainly making it work right now. #1 in total driving coming into the Open is a good place to be.
As for Hogan and Nelson, both kept their heads well back through impact; Nelson in particular was very explicit about his efforts to do so. I wouldn’t characterize either of them as “heaving and lunging” at all, although I guess you could find other technical flaws (mostly in Nelson’s soft and sometimes sagging/dipping left side–he was convinced you shouldn’t have a firm left leg through impact with steel shafts). Garcia’s not comparable to Glover, either, in this respect.
…and, in fact, the first time Glover was mentioned, the other poster said Glover “has to have great hands to time that swing,” and I agreed that he did. If you can find two top teachers who are in favor of letting the head and swing center slide as far forward as Glover does, more power to ya. Sometimes a guy plays well in _spite_ of certain swing characteristics, rather than because of them. I think he’s a talented guy who’s worked hard to get where he is, and he has a perfect temperament.
Wow…you’re lumping a lot of people together there. Sergio and Glover, in Hogan and Nelson’s category, qualitywise or even swingwise? I don’t think so.
I had Glover as a favorite coming into the open, btw, because he was #1 in total driving on tour. If I’m picking, I go by results, not by appearance. The discussion was about his swing, not his results. In fact, you’ll notice that I said of him, “He makes it work…for now,” and “Doesn’t mean the guy can’t put a number up”…
I don’t like the guy’s swing either–too much heaving and lunging, almost certainly not an action that’s going to hold together over time. Doesn’t mean the guy can’t put a number up, though. But I can’t imagine who’d name his swing as “best on tour,” and call it “effortless” to boot. It’s _huge_ effort. He makes it work…for now.
Ha…Chad can play like hell, but I actually see what you mean. I also think it’s more than just cosmetic–this may be a swing tendency he’ll have to address in the long run…when he plays poorly he tends to be kind of all arms rather than involving the whole body.
Of course I wish I had a swing like Villegas’. But that’s not saying his swing is perfect.
And if commenting on videos meant I don’t have a life, it seems that you’re not much better yourself.
April 26th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
JD with cigarette in mouth xD
April 26th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Last typing test I took was 93 wpm, and I write for a living, was a sportswriter and columnist, so….not long. Maybe 15-20 min. How long did it take you to skip them, if you didn’t want to read them?
April 26th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
emmnacity, cool it. ow long did it take u 2 write all these comments?
April 26th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
shocking swing definetly have ta agre with emncaity too much heaving and lunging, is not a nice constant flow like myself can do.
April 26th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
BTW, somebody mentioned Villegas, and he’s another example of a guy who has some goofiness in his swing (much more than with Glover), but gets it done. I actually _hate_ watching him swing a club, but he’s the leaders in GIR this year, so there you go. I think it comes down to the fact that beyond a very few true fundamentals in the swing, golf is really about much more than the swing–which is something a lot of young players don’t seem to get at all.
April 26th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Go here (with YT prefix): watch?v=an0LY6HsLWY
I absolutely love his extension and the flow of his arm swing, but most players couldn’t maintain a swinging motion with a forward move of the head and upper body like he has. He actually moves backward, then forward at the start of the downswing, about a head-width past his address position, then back a bit by impact. But he’s pretty much gold in most other respects. I just wouldn’t recommend all that movement to most players.
April 26th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
And neither Garcia nor Glover is anywhere on the map with Hogan or Nelson. Not yet.
Anyhow, no, I stand by the comment about Glover’s forward slide. When Nicklaus, Woods, Hogan, Nelson, Snead, Jones, etc. make an effort to stay back behind the ball, I’m gonna say that’s the preferred way to do it. But this year, in this tournament, Glover absolutely deserved the win, because he’s certainly making it work right now. #1 in total driving coming into the Open is a good place to be.
April 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
As for Hogan and Nelson, both kept their heads well back through impact; Nelson in particular was very explicit about his efforts to do so. I wouldn’t characterize either of them as “heaving and lunging” at all, although I guess you could find other technical flaws (mostly in Nelson’s soft and sometimes sagging/dipping left side–he was convinced you shouldn’t have a firm left leg through impact with steel shafts). Garcia’s not comparable to Glover, either, in this respect.
April 26th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
…and, in fact, the first time Glover was mentioned, the other poster said Glover “has to have great hands to time that swing,” and I agreed that he did. If you can find two top teachers who are in favor of letting the head and swing center slide as far forward as Glover does, more power to ya. Sometimes a guy plays well in _spite_ of certain swing characteristics, rather than because of them. I think he’s a talented guy who’s worked hard to get where he is, and he has a perfect temperament.
April 26th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Wow…you’re lumping a lot of people together there. Sergio and Glover, in Hogan and Nelson’s category, qualitywise or even swingwise? I don’t think so.
I had Glover as a favorite coming into the open, btw, because he was #1 in total driving on tour. If I’m picking, I go by results, not by appearance. The discussion was about his swing, not his results. In fact, you’ll notice that I said of him, “He makes it work…for now,” and “Doesn’t mean the guy can’t put a number up”…
April 26th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Lucas Glover…..great swing before and after US Open vic-tore-ree.
Heaving and lunging…just like Hogan, Nelson, Sergio, among many others…?
#1 in total driving…
I dunno em…
And I repeat…before and after US Open…
April 26th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
I don’t like the guy’s swing either–too much heaving and lunging, almost certainly not an action that’s going to hold together over time. Doesn’t mean the guy can’t put a number up, though. But I can’t imagine who’d name his swing as “best on tour,” and call it “effortless” to boot. It’s _huge_ effort. He makes it work…for now.
April 26th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
You ain’t kidding. His head moves forward like a foot–always a death move for a lesser player, and usually for even a tour player.
April 26th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Ha…Chad can play like hell, but I actually see what you mean. I also think it’s more than just cosmetic–this may be a swing tendency he’ll have to address in the long run…when he plays poorly he tends to be kind of all arms rather than involving the whole body.
April 26th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
yea thats because the length of the backswing only has a small part in adding distance, its and bout holding lag, and compressing the golf ball
April 27th, 2010 at 12:29 am
Villegas has such a short backswing, but so powerful.
April 27th, 2010 at 1:23 am
Glover has some great hands to be able to time that swing, I gotta hand it too him.
April 27th, 2010 at 2:13 am
immelmans swing is the nicest there
April 27th, 2010 at 2:53 am
Dang I just saw something, I put my left foot too far from my right, so when I turn my anckles, I cant do it of 90 degrees :O
April 27th, 2010 at 3:20 am
bull
April 27th, 2010 at 4:03 am
so does chad champbell looks like a old man trying to hit a 300 yard drive
April 27th, 2010 at 4:37 am
Of course I wish I had a swing like Villegas’. But that’s not saying his swing is perfect.
And if commenting on videos meant I don’t have a life, it seems that you’re not much better yourself.
April 27th, 2010 at 4:59 am
You wish you had a swing like Villega’s, you would be on the tour instead of critisizing the world’s best. Get a life
April 27th, 2010 at 5:11 am
He’s a character alright! Good to see a big fella on tour.
April 27th, 2010 at 5:44 am
aaron baddeleys swing is so short, but thats because of the stack and tilt thing